4 Responses to “Manganovel bites the dust”

  1. Bengo says:

    All the reporting I have read by you to date is top notch.

  2. Brigid says:

    Thanks, Bengo! I appreciate that. Happy new year!

  3. ed says:

    Hey Brigid,
    I think your Mac angle is way off. While bloggers might be on their macs typing away there is no denying that PCs hold more than 85% of the American market and an even higher percentage worldwide where in some counties buying a mac (that is not a mac mini) would cost a large part of a year’s salary (compared to two-three months wages in the US).

    MangaNovel went for the biggest piece of the pie and before there were illegal web players like MangaFox, even the majority of scan reading software were for PC. Took me a whole to find one for my mac when I started checking scans last year (settling with comicreader).

    I got to talk to the manganovel people when they launched and I basically felt they were dead in the water back then. Main reason being that .99 is greater than free ( am issue crunchyroll is now dealing with as they removed fan subs as of 1/1/09 and they have gotten thousands of hits on their forums from people who just found out despite email and pr stating the change for more than a month now). They had mac and iPhone plans but never hit to it because they never reached their first objective – getting licences. And from that blurb you referred to I can see they admit that was a key issue. Without the revenue from licences they were just posting free comics that they were supporting on their own. Eventually resources had to dry up and now they as shutting down.

    I am a little confused by the grown ups comment though. Are you supporting scans?as you saying MN didn’t understand the global audience they were going after (their targets were the US, France, Korea, and Indonesia and they got most of their traffic from the Philippines, Russia, Brazil and Latin America). Or wee you referring to the industry’s lack of interest to this project. Hey there already is a major eBook site in Japan featuring comics from Shogakukan, Kodansha, Asahi, Kadokawa and others, with iPhone technology (though region locked and pc only). According to a few pubs they also have a belief that licensees worldwide should handle their own online distrbution issues within their license borders as Viz/Shueisha has with JumpLand.

    MN never had a chance. It didn’t have the industry support. It didn’t understand the global audience. And it never evolved. Hopefully future projects will learn from their mistakes.

  4. Franzeska says:

    It may be true that PCs make up most of the market, but I too was kept from using MangaNovel because I have a Mac, and I have friends who never even checked out the site for that reason. I was curious enough that I sneakily checked it out on my work computer.

    In addition to the website being hideous and impossible to navigate (There’s a forum? Really? But I looked for it several times and never found it!), the reader program is also horrible. It often displays two-page spreads that are the wrong two pages. It has no proper zoom function so that anyone reading on a small screen had better be 100% fluent and used to reading tiny, grainy type. It doesn’t allow you to fit your translations to the picture at all, so you end up with giant, ugly blocks obscuring the picture, forcing you to flip back and forth between the translation and the original.

    However, the biggest problem was the selection. I understand why big-name titles would never appear on a site like that: if a professional translation would actually make money, why bother? But there was also a relative lack of cult titles that might have interested the manga readers I know. Yaoi too obscure or shocking to get published elsewhere would have lured people. Early, obscure titles by authors of more famous works would have lured people. Violent martial arts comics that haven’t been translated due to some controversy or other would have worked fine too. I actually did see some interest in the one geisha-themed title on the Immortal Geisha forums, but it was too hard for people to check it out because of the horrible site and software. Maybe if they’d had more titles like that…

    What does NOT interest most manga fans outside of Japan are cutesy vet stories that could be from anywhere and, especially, josei romance titles that are both boringly realistic and written in rather difficult Japanese. Ok, I have to confess that I absolutely am going to track down a paper copy of Bodaiju no Shita Kimi wo Aisu if I can, but it’s not a good title for attracting people to a site. The last time I looked, no one had even tried to translate it, and I couldn’t read most of the kanji on the shitty viewer program.

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